{"id":8237,"date":"2017-04-09T16:19:48","date_gmt":"2017-04-09T21:19:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/?p=8237"},"modified":"2022-03-10T14:29:37","modified_gmt":"2022-03-10T20:29:37","slug":"doctors-die-differently-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2017\/04\/09\/doctors-die-differently-2","title":{"rendered":"Doctors Die Differently"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>With everything being written about our changing healthcare climate, you\u2019re probably also seeing articles about end-of-life care. During a person\u2019s final weeks or months, costs&nbsp; escalate from tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars, and all too often for little more than a minor extension of misery.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It puts a new spin on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.poets.org\/poetsorg\/poem\/do-not-go-gentle-good-night\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Dylan Thomas<\/a>:<br><i>Do not go gentle into that good night, <\/i><br><i>Old age should burn and rave at close of day; <\/i><br><i>Rage, rage against the dying of the light.<\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bravo to those who are reluctant to let go, but do consider these same courageous souls are grievously misinformed about the consequences of treatment. With heroic life-prolonging maneuvers, we risk spending our final moments in an ICU, connected to a ventilator, feeding tube, or both, fluids pouring in and draining out. The last words we might hear are those of a frantic intern shouting \u201cCardiac arrest! Full code! Crash cart!,\u201d the last sound the crack of a rib with resuscitation efforts in full throttle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All in all, we might prefer crossing over peacefully at home, perhaps after hosting a <a href=\"https:\/\/deathoverdinner.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">dinner with close friends<\/a>. Finally, in our own beds, letting death simply happen as we share some cannabis with family, enjoy the sensation of an old dog (or cat) nuzzling our hand, in the background a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=bduU-lNjgnE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Beethoven string quartet<\/a>, a duet from Otello, or a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=_PVjcIO4MT4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Jimi Hendrix riff<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>An <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2013\/11\/20\/your-money\/how-doctors-die.html?pagewanted=1&amp;_r=0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">elegant piece<\/a> on this subject appeared in the business section of the New York Times several years ago. I urge you to also read through some of the comments that follow. I\u2019m always fascinated to learn what patients really think of us physicians and how many mistakes (well intentioned, but sometimes self-serving) we\u2019re making.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Working in hospital medicine as I did for 20 years, I and most of my physician friends knew we didn\u2019t want an ICU departure for ourselves. Spend our last months or weeks in a nursing home? No way! We\u2019d even take a pass on cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) since the odds of long-term survival (i.e., actually walking out of the hospital) after CPR are pathetic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What I learned, from internship onward, was that there was an unwritten agreement among physicians in which the patient-doctor would be the one to call the shots on her treatments and eventual demise. More recently, these have been codified as advance directives, available to everyone and written by attorneys as part of an estate plan. The trouble with advance directives is that often during a crisis nobody can locate the paperwork. (Instead of trying to remember where you put your advance directive, you might try <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?q=no+cpr+bracelet&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbo=u&amp;source=univ&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=knnJUq3NJOeBygGO94HQCw&amp;ved=0CFsQsAQ&amp;biw=1280&amp;bih=680\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">one of these<\/a> as an alternative.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Doing everything, then doing less<\/b><br>When you the patient first learn of a diagnosis that might impair your longevity, you quite reasonably want everything done. You\u2019re thinking survival and you\u2019re in no frame of mind to mull even the possibility of end-stage issues. Your doctor and the team she gathers to manage your care all are in synch: restoring you to health is their goal and you\u2019re very glad for this.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But when one treatment leads to another, complication follows complication, and your quality of life starts to fracture, you wonder if it\u2019s really worth it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You might even ask yourself what doctors do for themselves or their families in these situations. It\u2019s extremely difficult to get accurate information from doctors about this. Remember, you\u2019ve hired this doctor and her team to keep you alive and you may get a sort of confused look if you ask, \u201cDoctor, if you were me, what would you really do?\u201d No one knows for sure how long you\u2019ve got, or really what quality of life you\u2019ve got in store, so their best guess on your outcome will usually lean toward hope and optimism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Almost no doctor will ever answer your question with \u201cThis treatment is too brutal for my liking. Personally, I\u2019d get my affairs in order and rent a beach house somewhere.\u201d In other words, your physician might plan that beach house for herself, but as far as you go, don\u2019t expect suggestions on bargains in waterfront real estate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And that\u2019s not a bad thing. How far you\u2019re willing to extend your life and hold death at arm\u2019s length is just too personal a topic for your doctor to make too strong a suggestion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I want to mention one bit of distastefulness and that\u2019s the issue of fee-for-service in which everyone is getting paid to do more rather than less. Internists earn more money pouring antibiotics into Alzheimer patients with pneumonia, surgeons insert feeding tubes to keep the comatose alive, hospitals and nursing homes lose money when their beds are empty. It\u2019s really only after terminally ill patients have been squashed a few times by the semi-trailer of healthcare and the family finances have been eviscerated that anybody seems to finally hear, \u201cWe\u2019re sorry we can\u2019t do anything else. Maybe consider hospice care.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>When doctors are patients themselves, the situation is much different<\/b><br>Given their experience with patients&#8211;seeing what works, what doesn\u2019t, and which therapies can be brutal\u2014doctors are clearly in a prime position to press the \u201cWhoa!\u201d button. Indeed, it turns out that doctors say \u201cNot for me\u201d more often than you might think. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.zocalopublicsquare.org\/2011\/11\/30\/how-doctors-die\/ideas\/nexus\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">A superbly written piece on this topic<\/a>, by physician Ken Murray, MD, appeared first online on Zocalo Public Square before going on to be selected for inclusion in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Best-American-Essays-2012-Series\/dp\/0547840098\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1388932582&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=best+american+essays+2012\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">The Best American Essays<\/a> of 2012.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The very best book about mortality and saying no to excessive and unnecessary life-prolonging therapies is\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Being-Mortal-Medicine-What-Matters\/dp\/0805095152\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1491748680&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=being+mortal\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\"><i class=\"\">Being Mortal<\/i><\/a>\u00a0by Atul Gawande, MD, an enormously compassionate physician who follows the end-of-life care of several patients, including his own father, also a physician.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I remember during my training two surgeons who had been friends for decades. One was suspected of having stomach cancer and died during surgery. I later learned he\u2019d told his surgeon colleague that if he discovered metastatic cancer, he the patient was not to wake up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sometime later, a different and much beloved physician was diagnosed with intractable cancer. He reviewed the chemo protocol proposed by his oncologist, tallied the side effects, and calculated his life expectancy with and without treatment. He decided it wasn\u2019t worth it, walked out of the hospital, signed up with a hospice service so he could get pain meds (which he never needed), and died peacefully at home several months later.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cHe hated a fuss,\u201d his widow told me later.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But before you come to believe all physicians throw in the towel easily, virtually every study about the health habits of physicians show we follow our own treatment guidelines more conscientiously than the patients who\u2019ve been listening to our nagging for years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If a doctor\u2019s diagnosed with, for example, diabetes, she\u2019ll likely get pretty obsessive about it: a perfect diet, regular blood sugar measurement, eye exams\u2014everything needed for a healthy longevity. No doctor would dream of turning down chemotherapy for Hodgkin\u2019s disease or lymphoma, or immune modulating therapies for multiple sclerosis. In other words, when a treatment will pay off in spades, doctors are at the head of the line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But when faced with a terminal illness and a treatment that might add a few months&#8211;at the high cost of endless nausea, profound fatigue, blurry thinking, no appetite, and loss of sense of humor&#8211;most physicians recheck the survival odds and say \u201cThanks but no thanks.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A weekly trip to the medical center? \u201cNope,\u201d they\u2019ll say. Endless prescription drugs to treat the side effects of side effects? \u201cNot for me.\u201d Hospital food, a nursing home, and ambulance rides? \u201cThanks, but no thanks. Just turn on Placido, Janis, or Jimi and make me a toddy. In fact, I believe I\u2019ll have time for a double.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Be well,<br><em>David Edelberg, MD<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>With everything being written about our changing healthcare climate, you\u2019re probably also seeing articles about end-of-life care. During a person\u2019s final weeks or months, costs&nbsp; escalate from tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars, and all too often for little more than a minor extension of misery. It puts a new spin on Dylan Thomas:Do [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2087,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[352,2,50,3,2315,2314],"tags":[1795,1962,1963],"class_list":["post-8237","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aging","category-blog","category-healthy-lifestyle","category-knowledge-base","category-most-comments","category-most-view","tag-end-of-life","tag-hospice-care","tag-icu"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v24.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\r\n<title>Doctors Die Differently<\/title>\r\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\r\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2017\/04\/09\/doctors-die-differently-2\" \/>\r\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\r\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\r\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Doctors Die Differently\" \/>\r\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"With everything being written about our changing healthcare climate, you\u2019re probably also seeing articles about end-of-life care. During a person\u2019s final weeks or months, costs&nbsp; escalate from tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars, and all too often for little more than a minor extension of misery. It puts a new spin on Dylan Thomas:Do [&hellip;]\" \/>\r\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2017\/04\/09\/doctors-die-differently-2\" \/>\r\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"WholeHealth Chicago\" \/>\r\n<meta property=\"article:publisher\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/wholehealthchicago\" \/>\r\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2017-04-09T21:19:48+00:00\" \/>\r\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2022-03-10T20:29:37+00:00\" \/>\r\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"wholehealthchicago\" \/>\r\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\r\n<meta name=\"twitter:creator\" content=\"@wholehealthchi\" \/>\r\n<meta name=\"twitter:site\" content=\"@wholehealthchi\" \/>\r\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"wholehealthchicago\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"6 minutes\" \/>\r\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2017\/04\/09\/doctors-die-differently-2\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2017\/04\/09\/doctors-die-differently-2\",\"name\":\"Doctors Die Differently\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2017-04-09T21:19:48+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2022-03-10T20:29:37+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/#\/schema\/person\/8f28cef347f94e6801d2bdd38b9cea19\"},\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2017\/04\/09\/doctors-die-differently-2#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2017\/04\/09\/doctors-die-differently-2\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2017\/04\/09\/doctors-die-differently-2#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Doctors Die Differently\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/\",\"name\":\"WholeHealth Chicago\",\"description\":\"WholeHealth Chicago is the Midwest&#039;s oldest and most respected center for integrative care, successfully blending the latest advances in conventional medicine with a wide range of clinically proven alternative therapies.\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":{\"@type\":\"PropertyValueSpecification\",\"valueRequired\":true,\"valueName\":\"search_term_string\"}}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/#\/schema\/person\/8f28cef347f94e6801d2bdd38b9cea19\",\"name\":\"wholehealthchicago\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/b63bce17acaeb51f185933c60fa6fa86c347679a70b79ec51e5b772e271a469f?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/b63bce17acaeb51f185933c60fa6fa86c347679a70b79ec51e5b772e271a469f?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"wholehealthchicago\"},\"url\":\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/author\/wholehealthchicago\"}]}<\/script>\r\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Doctors Die Differently","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2017\/04\/09\/doctors-die-differently-2","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"Doctors Die Differently","og_description":"With everything being written about our changing healthcare climate, you\u2019re probably also seeing articles about end-of-life care. During a person\u2019s final weeks or months, costs&nbsp; escalate from tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars, and all too often for little more than a minor extension of misery. It puts a new spin on Dylan Thomas:Do [&hellip;]","og_url":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2017\/04\/09\/doctors-die-differently-2","og_site_name":"WholeHealth Chicago","article_publisher":"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/wholehealthchicago","article_published_time":"2017-04-09T21:19:48+00:00","article_modified_time":"2022-03-10T20:29:37+00:00","author":"wholehealthchicago","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_creator":"@wholehealthchi","twitter_site":"@wholehealthchi","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"wholehealthchicago","Est. reading time":"6 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2017\/04\/09\/doctors-die-differently-2","url":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2017\/04\/09\/doctors-die-differently-2","name":"Doctors Die Differently","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/#website"},"datePublished":"2017-04-09T21:19:48+00:00","dateModified":"2022-03-10T20:29:37+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/#\/schema\/person\/8f28cef347f94e6801d2bdd38b9cea19"},"breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2017\/04\/09\/doctors-die-differently-2#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2017\/04\/09\/doctors-die-differently-2"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2017\/04\/09\/doctors-die-differently-2#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Doctors Die Differently"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/#website","url":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/","name":"WholeHealth Chicago","description":"WholeHealth Chicago is the Midwest&#039;s oldest and most respected center for integrative care, successfully blending the latest advances in conventional medicine with a wide range of clinically proven alternative therapies.","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/#\/schema\/person\/8f28cef347f94e6801d2bdd38b9cea19","name":"wholehealthchicago","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/b63bce17acaeb51f185933c60fa6fa86c347679a70b79ec51e5b772e271a469f?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/b63bce17acaeb51f185933c60fa6fa86c347679a70b79ec51e5b772e271a469f?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"wholehealthchicago"},"url":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/author\/wholehealthchicago"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8237","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2087"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8237"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8237\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":27748,"href":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8237\/revisions\/27748"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8237"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8237"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8237"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}