{"id":30800,"date":"2023-06-12T20:35:56","date_gmt":"2023-06-13T01:35:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/?p=30800"},"modified":"2023-06-12T20:36:04","modified_gmt":"2023-06-13T01:36:04","slug":"women-and-add-part-2-of-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2023\/06\/12\/women-and-add-part-2-of-2","title":{"rendered":"Women and ADD: Part 2 of 2"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>In my last <a href=\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2023\/06\/05\/women-and-add-part-1-2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Health Tip<\/a>, we discussed Claire, a woman in her thirties with attention deficit disorder (ADD), reviewing lifestyle and non-medication approaches. This week, I\u2019ll go over the conventional medications used for this very common condition (estimated at 5% of the population).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Let me start by saying that untreated ADD, in both children and adults, can prevent very (very!!) bright people from living up to their potential. Also, it\u2019s important to know that with most ADD meds, there\u2019s no \u201clifetime commitment\u201d. Some kids really outgrow their ADD issues and stop their meds. Many ADD medication users find they don\u2019t need a pill every day. Students (and adults) often skip their meds over summer vacation or on weekends when there\u2019s no homework. Many adults with mild ADD use the meds on an as-needed basis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>By far the largest group of medications for ADD are the stimulants (accounting for 99% of ADD meds). <\/strong>These&nbsp;literally \u201cwake up\u201d the inefficient ADD brain by boosting levels of neurotransmitters dopamine, norepinephrine and serotonin. Because of this effect, psychiatrists often prescribe small doses of ADD meds for clinical depression, even when actual ADD may not be present.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;The two stimulants are the amphetamines (Adderall, Vyvanse and Mydayis) and methylphenidates (Ritalin, Focalin, Concerta), and they\u2019re all available in both immediate release and extended-release form, the latter developed to last a little longer than a school day. When the ADD meds first came out as &#8220;Immediate Release&#8221; only, classroom teachers had to send their ADD kids to the school nurse for a noontime dose.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If you open a capsule of any of the time release amphetamines, you\u2019ll see it\u2019s filled with tiny beads of different colors. Actually, the beads are all the same medication. It\u2019s the coating that makes the difference. Adderall XR lasts to about 3 or 4 PM. Vyvanse was developed for adults and lasts until about 5 PM. Mydayis is even longer lasting, 7 PM or so. Since Mydayis is new (and expensive around $330 a month) insurance companies balk at coverage. ADD patients can get pretty much the same effect as Mydayis by taking an Adderall XR in the morning (generic, inexpensive) and an Adderall immediate release tablet (ditto) at about 3 PM.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One of the genuinely annoying aspects about the stimulant medications is they\u2019ve been classed as \u2018controlled medications\u2019, meaning you can only get a 30 day supply and a new prescription is needed each month. Some states and some insurers allow 90 day supplies, but Illinois and Blue Cross are not among these.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>By the way, if you have anxieties about starting a low dose of a stimulant med for your diagnosed ADD, keep in mind that the average age of the people taking any of these meds is about 11 years old.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All the stimulants, taken in the morning, begin to work within an hour and start fading in the afternoon. As I mentioned before, people with more severe ADD often take a second dose mid-afternoon to last them until about 8 PM. The main side effects are jitteriness (resolved by reducing the dose), insomnia (ditto), and appetite suppression (goes away in about two weeks).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If you\u2019re wondering why I haven\u2019t discussed the methyphenidate group, it\u2019s mainly because I\u2019ve never had much reason to use them. I think pediatricians prescribe them a lot, but most internists prefer the Adderall family. Both groups are very effective.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;The non stimulant ADD medications are Strattera and the brand new Qelbree. Both were originally released as antidepressants in the 1970&#8217;s then withdrawn because, well honestly, they didn&#8217;t work particularly well and had lots of side effects. Not to waste all those barrels of antidepressant powder, Strattera was re-released in 2002 for ADD. Very few ADD patients actually like Strattera because of side effects and only marginal clinical improvement.&#8221; Likewise with Qelbree, a failed antidepressant in the UK, resurfaced for ADD in 2021, likely with all its old side effects and now a black box warning about &#8220;suicidal ideation&#8221; (JEEZ!)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;I also want to comment about the maddening drug shortages of Adderall that ADD patients have been experiencing during the past year or so. It&#8217;s not just Adderall, but virtually all generic medications. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When your pharmacist says &#8220;I can&#8217;t get any Adderall,&#8221; she literally can&#8217;t. So many &#8220;interested parties,&#8221; like pharmacy chains, insurance companies, pharmacy benefit managers (ExpressScripts, CVS Caremark, the ones who &#8220;deny&#8221; benefits) are involved in demanding price cutting from the generic manufacturer, who then gets further undercut by companies in India or China, that he finally gives up and stops making his own generic Adderall. When one generic manufacturer said &#8220;I lose money on every tablet I make. Why should I bother?&#8221; To me, that explained a lot of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The natural therapies Claire had been using were helping a little, she told me, but she was curious about how she\u2019d feel without any ADD symptoms at all. So, after some discussion about the options, Claire chose Vyvanse. I also recommended two books:\u00a0<strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.barnesandnoble.com\/w\/scattered-minds-lenard-adler\/1100311534?ean=9780399533402\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Scattered Minds<\/a><\/em><\/strong> (for her) and\u00a0<strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.barnesandnoble.com\/w\/is-it-you-me-or-adult-add-pera\/1100527112?ean=9780981548708\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Is It You, Me, or Adult ADD?<\/a><\/em><\/strong>\u00a0(for her husband). The second is an excellent book about living with someone who has ADD.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Claire was back in a week to talk about what she\u2019d experienced. \u201cIt\u2019s amazing\u201d she began, \u201cI now know what people talk about when they describe \u2018memorizing something&#8217;. I can read lists and two hours later, recite the list. I actually read a whole book, cover to cover, and can tell you what it was about. It was miraculous, like my mind was given a pair of eyeglasses.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The big test, she said, would be the following month when she\u2019d be re-taking her real estate license exam, which she\u2019d failed twice in the past and had just about given up as a lost cause.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Although she kept in touch by e-mail regarding some minor Vyvanse dose adjustments, it wasn\u2019t until one of her e-mails held photos of a condo she \u201cthought I might be interested in\u201d that I learned the ultimate results of her treatment. No, I didn\u2019t need the condo, but I was thrilled she had passed her license exam.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>I now see her ads regularly.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Be Well,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>David Edelberg, MD<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In my last Health Tip, we discussed Claire, a woman in her thirties with attention deficit disorder (ADD), reviewing lifestyle and non-medication approaches. 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