{"id":19468,"date":"2019-12-23T08:20:11","date_gmt":"2019-12-23T14:20:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/?p=19468"},"modified":"2021-07-21T22:02:34","modified_gmt":"2021-07-22T03:02:34","slug":"paying-a-lot-more-at-walgreens-and-sometimes-cvs-too","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/blog\/2019\/12\/23\/paying-a-lot-more-at-walgreens-and-sometimes-cvs-too","title":{"rendered":"Paying A Lot More At Walgreens (and Sometimes CVS Too)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>At WholeHealth Chicago, we really do try to avoid prescribing prescription drugs whenever we can, opting instead for lifestyle changes that can keep you away from a chemical pill you might have to take for the rest of your incarnation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But sometimes\u2026because we won\u2019t play games with your health you\u2019ll leave with instructions to pick up your medication at the drugstore.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don\u2019t know if other doctors are doing this, but for new meds I routinely do a quick price comparison, a real eye-opener for many patients. Other times, with someone new to WholeHealth Chicago, I\u2019ll share a price comparison as I review her medication list alongside her drug benefits.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Honestly, if the person has great prescription coverage I don\u2019t spend time on pricing. But occasionally we\u2019ll luck out and our patient will leave the office knowing she\u2019ll be saving a serious amount of money every month.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Understanding drug pricing<br><\/strong>First, let\u2019s get a handle on brand name drugs versus generics. Of course there are spectacular differences in price, which is why your insurer hates it when your doc prescribes a brand-name drug. Insurers also didn\u2019t want you to know anything about these high-priced, brand-name drugs and as a result were greatly opposed to the direct-to-consumer drug commercials you\u2019ve been seeing on TV for decades. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.statnews.com\/2015\/12\/11\/untold-story-tvs-first-prescription-drug-ad\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Here\u2019s a good piece on the mid-1980s controversy.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You\u2019ve also read there can be real differences in quality between brand-name and generic. The brand-name drug goes through an excruciating amount of testing before the FDA allows you to swallow the first pill. Generic drugs come primarily from chemical plants in China and India and are then repackaged in a wholesome-sounding place like Des Moines.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Plus, even though the generic drug manufacturer checks on its own production (fox, please watch henhouse) and signs a statement that its product is identical to the brand-name version, as for quality control at the point of manufacture there is very little. Ranitidine, the recently-recalled generic version of Zantac, probably was contaminated for years with the carcinogen NDMA.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Second, brand-name drug prices are fixed by the manufacturer and protected by its patent. Interestingly, even after the drug goes generic the price of the brand-name version must remain unchanged.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Your prescription for a brand-name drug will cost pretty much the same high price at Costco as at Walgreens. Sometimes, but unfortunately less and less often, a branded drug will be sold for a lower price via a Canadian pharmacy. Using a Canadian pharmacy is just fine, but these days people are discovering that with comparison shopping, price-wise you can do just as well in the US.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Third, when we look at generic drugs prices they\u2019re are all over the place. If you\u2019ve got excellent drug coverage and your insurer will pony up for a generic (some are quite costly), that\u2019s fine. But too often a patient hears from the pharmacist \u201cYour insurer won\u2019t cover it.\u201d The subtext being: \u201cAsk your doctor to prescribe the less expensive, older version that no one uses because it doesn\u2019t work and has terrible side effects. Your insurance will pay for that!\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Eye-popping prices<br><\/strong>\u201cOh,\u201d you tell the pharmacist, \u201cSince it\u2019s a generic, I\u2019ll just pay out of pocket.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The next thing you know you\u2019re waking up on the floor in front of the pharmacy counter. The pharmacist peers down into your face and gently says, \u201cYou fainted. It\u2019s sticker shock. We see it all the time.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The following table, which compares the prices of two common drugs available both as brand-name and generic (Crestor\/atorvastatin and Viagra\/sildenafil), will explain why you passed out. The table shows prices for the brand-name version (the higher price) and the generic. <u>Note: the first price is retail, the second is with a goodrx discount card (more on that below)<\/u>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, if you tell the Walgreens pharmacist you have no insurance and you don\u2019t have a goodrx discount card, she will charge you $576 for brand-name Crestor. She could say \u201cHey, go online, get a discount card, and walk across the street to the Mariano\u2019s, where it will cost you only $15.\u201d Of course, she\u2019d be unemployed at the end of the day.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td><strong>Drug<\/strong><\/td><td><strong>Walgreens<\/strong><\/td><td><strong>CVS<\/strong><\/td><td><strong>Osco<\/strong><\/td><td><strong>Mariano\u2019s<\/strong><\/td><td><strong>Costco<\/strong><\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Crestor\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\/atorvastatin<\/p>\n<p>90 tabs<\/p>\n<\/td><td>$576\/$192<\/td><td>$533\/$49<\/td><td>$270\/$19<\/td><td>$193\/$15<\/td><td>$48\/$15<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Viagra\/sildenafil<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>30 tabs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $1376\/$553&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $1288\/$333&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $393\/$25&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $1994\/$20&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $1146\/$19<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I could go on. Other drug pricing can be less dramatic, but generally Walgreens (and often CVS) are at the very least three times more expensive than Osco, Mariano\u2019s, and Costco. Walmart and Sam\u2019s Club are about the same as Costco.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ubiquitous Walgreens<br><\/strong>Now you\u2019ll ask yourself \u201cHow did I end up using Walgreens, anyway?\u201d Well, let\u2019s face it, like nail salons and foot massage places, Walgreens is everywhere. But in addition you may have gotten instructions from your insurer that Walgreens is their \u201cpreferred prescription partner\u201d and that you\u2019ll be able to use your pharmacy coverage there and have a delectably low co-pay of $10 or less.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cBut,\u201d you protest, \u201cIs Blue Cross (or United or Aetna or Medicare Part D) actually paying Walgreens $192 for 90 days of Crestor when they could pay $15 at Mariano\u2019s?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Probably not, but you\u2019ll never actually know. Prescription drug prices negotiated between insurance companies and pharmacy giants include a middleman called a Pharmacy Benefit Manager. Like hospital charges, their math is better hidden than Donald Trump\u2019s tax returns.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But keep in mind that as long as an insurer pays a high price for an inexpensive generic it can pass that high price on to you (or your employer) in the form of higher insurance premiums.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Next steps<br><\/strong>I don\u2019t want to make all this sound overly complicated, so here\u2019s what I suggest:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8212;<u>Line up all your medications and write down how much you\u2019re paying out of pocket<\/u> for each. If all you\u2019re forking over is a roughly $10 co-pay, then great. And if in order to get that price you must use Walgreens, then go ahead and do so.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/2014\/09\/22\/at-the-corner-of-criminal-customer-why-would-anyone-shop-at-walgreens\/\">You can click here<\/a> to read an older Health Tip on why Walgreens so thoroughly irritates me. <a href=\"https:\/\/wholehealthchicago.com\/2014\/09\/22\/at-the-corner-of-criminal-customer-why-would-anyone-shop-at-walgreens\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Or you can click here<\/a> to learn how abject company greed made both Walgreens and CVS major players in the current opioid crisis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8212;<u>If your prescription isn\u2019t covered or if your co-pay is more than $10<\/u>, <a href=\"\/\/www.goodrx.com\/discount-card\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">go to goodrx.com<\/a>, look up your drug, and see if you can find it somewhere less expensive. <em>Important note<\/em>: when you use goodrx pricing, you are <strong>not<\/strong> using your insurance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Just remember, our current healthcare system routinely places profits above your well-being. There\u2019s a reason <a href=\"https:\/\/jamanetwork.com\/journals\/jama\/article-abstract\/2756187\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">US lifespans are declining<\/a> and chronic illnesses are on the rise. You must be a pro-active patient and if you work at it you can\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Be well,<br><em>David Edelberg, MD<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At WholeHealth Chicago, we really do try to avoid prescribing prescription drugs whenever we can, opting instead for lifestyle changes that can keep you away from a chemical pill you might have to take for the rest of your incarnation. 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